Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 120

03/14/2008 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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+ HB 50 CHILD PLACEMENT COMPACT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 50(JUD) Out of Committee
+ SB 97 ALASKA NATIVE ART IDENTIFICATION SEALS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 97(JUD) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 50 - CHILD PLACEMENT COMPACT                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:21:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 50,  "An Act relating  to the  Interstate Compact                                                               
for  the  Placement  of   Children;  establishing  an  interstate                                                               
commission for  the placement of  children; amending Rules  4 and                                                               
24,  Alaska  Rules  of  Civil Procedure;  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."  [Before the committee was CSHB 50(HES).]                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL,  speaking  as  one of  the  joint  prime                                                               
sponsors  of  HB   50,  related  that  the   bill  addresses  the                                                               
Interstate Compact for the Placement  of Children (ICPC) that was                                                               
originally formulated in [1960].   The compact language and rules                                                               
adopted  by  the  interstate  commission  for  the  placement  of                                                               
children relinquish state's  rights and supersede state  law.  He                                                               
opined  that  Alaska  has  been  instrumental  in  improving  the                                                               
compact and bringing  it into the 21st century.   He related that                                                               
some of  the changes  surround issues  pertaining to  home visits                                                               
and grandparents.  He characterized HB 50 as a good bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:26:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYNNIEVA  MOSS,  Staff  to Representative  John  Coghill,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  on behalf of  Representative Coghill,  one of                                                               
the joint prime sponsors of HB  50, opined that Alaska has gained                                                               
a good reputation  in working with other states  in the placement                                                               
of children.   She  stated that  Representative Coghill  has been                                                               
interested in  the issues surrounding  the placement  of children                                                               
in  part due  to discussions  held  with former  Judge Niesje  J.                                                               
Steinkruger  who described  the  difficulty  in placing  children                                                               
with a parent residing in another state.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MOSS explained  that under  HB 50,  the state  would not  be                                                               
involved in home  studies and other bureaucratic  "red tape" when                                                               
placing  a child  with a  parent  if the  child is  not in  state                                                               
custody.   It also  removes the applicability  of the  compact in                                                               
instances in which  the child is placed  in residential treatment                                                               
in the Lower  48 by his/her parents.   Ms. Moss noted  that HB 50                                                               
would  change   the  background  checks  necessary   for  placing                                                               
children with relatives from  a thorough background investigation                                                               
and  home  study to  requiring  only  an assessment,  which  will                                                               
eliminate unnecessary delays in placing the child.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:28:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARCIA  PICKERING,   Deputy  Compact  Administrator,   Office  of                                                               
Children's  Services  (OCS),  Department  of  Health  and  Social                                                               
Services (DHSS),  relayed that  for the last  four years  she has                                                               
served on  the executive committee  for the  National Association                                                               
of ICPC  Administrators.  She  offered that during the  past year                                                               
she has been heavily involved in  rewriting the new compact.  She                                                               
noted that the  ICPC was written in 1959 and  adopted by New York                                                               
in 1960,  but did not go  into effect until 15  years later, with                                                               
Alaska joining in 1976.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICKERING stated  that the concept behind the  new compact is                                                               
to provide  uniformity in  the process  and accountability.   She                                                               
opined  that the  old ICPC  did  not have  any accountability  or                                                               
enforcement  of reciprocity  to  ensure that  each  state is  not                                                               
charged by another state for  the services provided.  The changes                                                               
in  the ICPC  will lessen  the time  it takes  to place  a child,                                                               
while still  ensuring that the home  is safe for the  child.  She                                                               
highlighted  that  the  ICPC  has   been  endorsed  by  executive                                                               
committees  of the  National Council  of  Human Services,  Public                                                               
Child  Welfare Administrators,  the  executive  committee of  the                                                               
ICPC, and the American Academy of Adoption Attorneys.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING   continued  that   the  new  ICPC   provides  for                                                               
administrative   rule-making  enforcement;   penalties  for   the                                                               
"sending state" for an illegal  placement, but not for initiating                                                               
activity in the "receiving state";  for supervision services; for                                                               
guidelines  for  tribal  governments  that  will  include  tribal                                                               
government participation in the  development of those guidelines;                                                               
and will  create an option  for purchasing services such  as home                                                               
studies  and supervision  from  private  agencies not  previously                                                               
accepted by states.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING  said that  two  types  of  home studies  will  be                                                               
authorized, a "home  study" and an "assessment."   She noted that                                                               
the  assessment will  be an  abbreviated version,  and this  will                                                               
help to  provide placement.   Although a relative would  still be                                                               
required to submit  to a home study, the  initial placement could                                                               
happen  much  more  quickly.    The  new  ICPC  would  allow  for                                                               
provisional  approvals and  will  allow selection  of either  the                                                               
"sending" or  "receiving" state's  law; with  regard to  the U.S.                                                               
Armed Services,  this will make  that a much  smoother transition                                                               
when determining which jurisdiction  has precedence.  She offered                                                               
that the new ICPC will require a state advisory committee.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING  stated  that   the  executive  branch,  judiciary                                                               
branch, and  the legislative branch  will oversee and  advise the                                                               
agency  that will  carry  out  the compact.    This bill  deletes                                                               
applicability  to  private-parent  placements, to  avoid  private                                                               
family business,  and would  exempt the  compact in  instances of                                                               
private family  placements with relatives and  non-relatives when                                                               
it will not result  in an adoption.  She related  an example of a                                                               
mother  who sends  a  child to  live with  her  friend while  she                                                               
attends school;  HB 50 will  make it  clear that the  decision to                                                               
send the  child to live  with the  friend is solely  the mother's                                                               
decision.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Chair Ramras turned the gavel over to Vice Chair Dahlstrom.]                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:35:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING, in  response to  Vice  Chair Dahlstrom,  answered                                                               
that  this  new compact  would  apply  to  members of  the  armed                                                               
forces.   She  added that  applicability with  regard to  foreign                                                               
adoptions  has been  deleted because  the  federal government  is                                                               
regulating  activities  through  the visa  process  and  adoption                                                               
agencies must facilitate  the adoption.  Thus,  the necessity for                                                               
the states to be involved is eliminated.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG referred to page  28, lines 1-6, , which                                                               
gives the Interstate Commission on  the Placement of Children the                                                               
right to  intervene in  a judicial  proceeding pertaining  to the                                                               
ICPC,  and  asked  whether this  is  permissive  intervention  or                                                               
mandatory intervention.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:37:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAN   RUTHERDALE,  Senior   Assistant  Attorney   General,  Child                                                               
Protection Section,  Civil Division  (Juneau), Department  of Law                                                               
(DOL), stated that  the bill does not say, but  her assumption is                                                               
that it is a permissive intervention.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG opined  that the  language on  page 28,                                                               
line 2,  ought to clarify  that the  court rule being  amended is                                                               
Rule 24(b)  of the Alaska Rules  of Civil Procedure, in  order to                                                               
be clear that Rule 24(a) is not being amended.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PICKERING said  that the  intent is  to allow  the ICPC,  if                                                               
invited, to testify to the  rules, regulations, and any mediation                                                               
in a case that necessitated  court intervention.  She pointed out                                                               
that  if a  lawsuit  occurs between  two states,  it  will be  in                                                               
federal court, and the ICPC may petition to be a party.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL referred to  the term, "entitled" which he                                                               
opined would provide the DOL the  right to have a standing in the                                                               
matter.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  referred  to  page  22,  lines  19-25,                                                               
paragraph, which read:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     (4)  The Interstate  Commission  shall  be entitled  to                                                                    
     receive service of  process in any action  in which the                                                                    
     validity of  a compact provision  or rule is  the issue                                                                    
     for which a judicial  determination has been sought and                                                                    
     shall have  standing to  intervene in  any proceedings.                                                                    
     Failure   to  provide   service  of   process  to   the                                                                    
     Interstate Commission shall  render any judgment, order                                                                    
     or  other   determination,  however  so   captioned  or                                                                    
     classified, void as to  the Interstate Commission, this                                                                    
     compact,  its   bylaws  or  rules  of   the  Interstate                                                                    
     Commission.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  pointed   out  that   this  paragraph                                                               
provides for the  ICPC to receive notice, which he  stressed is a                                                               
different issue than  focusing on what action the  ICPC will take                                                               
once it receives  the notice.  The purpose of  this paragraph, he                                                               
opined,  is to  provide the  commission notice  so that  it could                                                               
file  a motion  to intervene  if it  so desires.   Representative                                                               
Gruenberg again asked  whether the ICPC has a  right to intervene                                                               
and, if so, if it  is permissive or mandatory, particularly given                                                               
that the aforementioned Rule 24 covers  both.  He opined that the                                                               
ICPC should have the right to  intervene, but that it should only                                                               
be permissive with the court.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:41:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  made  a  motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1,  to insert  "(b)" on  page 28,  line 2,  after "Rule                                                               
24".                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL stated that his  intent to allow the state                                                               
to challenge  the validity  of the  placement under  the compact.                                                               
He indicated that he would  be amenable to Conceptual Amendment 1                                                               
as long as it results in an accurate reference.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR DAHLSTROM  asked whether there were  any objections to                                                               
Conceptual   Amendment  1.      There   being  none,   Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  asked   whether  the   aforementioned                                                               
language on page  22, lines 19-25, is typical such  that when the                                                               
validity of a  compact provision or rule is  challenged, that the                                                               
commission shall be given the right of process.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICKERING answered that the  drafters consulted with a couple                                                               
of  national  organizations  that   specialize  in  compacts  and                                                               
determined that this language is uniform.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  referred  to   a  letter  in  members'                                                               
packets  from the  American Academy  of Adoption  Attorneys dated                                                               
January  14, 2008.   He  opined that  this group  is the  premier                                                               
group of adoption attorneys in the country.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. PICKERING, in response  to Representative Gruenberg, answered                                                               
that  the estimated  three  months  to a  year  to complete  home                                                               
studies  and  to  arrive  at  placement  decisions  will  be  cut                                                               
dramatically under HB 50.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG opined  that  from a  child's point  of                                                               
view  and  sense   of  time,  that  reduced   time  represents  a                                                               
tremendous savings.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR DAHLSTROM, after first determining no one else wished                                                                
to testify, closed public testimony on HB 50.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:46:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL moved to  report CSHB 50(HES), as amended,                                                               
out  of   committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection,  CSHB
50(JUD)   was  reported   from  the   House  Judiciary   Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

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